Represent: be entitled or appointed to act or speak for (someone), especially in an official capacity.
What gives someone the right to speak for ENS DAO? Your question makes it seem that anyone can just decide for themselves that they represent the DAO, because in their eyes they contribute, yes?
How does this interpretation go along with SG you propose? The SG will just make sure there are enough people who decide for themselves they represent ENS DAO in every event? they will reimburse anyone who self-declared themselves?
Yes, they can. But they also have to defend their representation. If someone wants to give a talk on behalf of ENS DAO, they can if they are sure of their stature in the community. But that comes with the responsibility of standing up to the scrutiny of a such a brave act. It is easier said than done. In any case, no one can stop someone from claiming they are ENS DAOists, if said person as much as votes on a proposal.
This SG could appoint few contributors among many who submit their request for conference participation. For instance, for Devcon 6, DAO can open calls for speakers. Everyone submits their talk proposal and a summary. SG can choose top 3 or such. Repeat for Hackathons; invite teams to submit their ideas on ENS and get funded. Repeat for everything else.
It is easier done than said. I never saw anyone question someone who said they represent an organization.
Yes… that’s why it’s easier done than said…
There’s a difference between representing ENS DAO and between giving talks about ENS DAO. If I get it right, you propose to pay/reimburse for their expanses people who give talks about ENS DAO?
The ENS DAO has a few official positions, which are spelled out in the constitution.
The ENS DAO also has a few defined roles, like contributor, delegate, steward, and sub-group lead.
DAO = decentralized autonomous organization
Maybe, I’m naive or misinformed, but this means anyone can say anything. Though at this point this is bit pedantic and unclear how productive it is to continue down this thread.
Covering Alisha’s costs for ETHAmsterdam would be a great start. She is also a heavily contributing member of the DAO. She should be covered for her work on ENS or ENS DAO.
Appreciate the sentiment. All of my contributions to the ENS DAO are carried out in my capacity as a contractor of TNL. The issue, in my opinion, is adequate funding of TNL… which should be resolved in the coming weeks/months.
It is not coming from a place of sentiment alone. If DAO has the funding and a person has done meaningful work continuously in an aspect, it is the responsibility of the DAO to compensate that effort, if other funding channels are temporarily shut. This is precisely the thing I am trying to fine tune in the end. You did development work for the DAO to the extent that you were our sole representative. This is similar to any other work people will get funds for. I guess I am coming from a system where our conference costs are systematically covered and people are encouraged to participate. It seems like this is not common in DAOverse so far.
In practise, yes. If someone voted on-chain, they can surely convince a group of people somewhere in third world (where ENS in unknown) that they represent ENS DAO. They have the proof as on-chain votes. They also have free access to all DAO material and discussions, so they can (or pretend to) represent the DAO. The hope is that more people will choose to say the right thing, if at all. It is mutual trust with no centralised authority on eligibility. Anyone can be a member and represent it. Theoretically.
Correct, but not always. The academic body also had funds of its own that people could request budget from, usually students. The legal body of this source of funding was the lead laboratory at Caltech (= ENS Foundation)
It’s actually quite funny because academic talks are not as cool as DAO talks. People prepare a lot and stress a lot. It matters a lot to give a good talk. We most often were in situations where people were not so keen on conferences since it occasionally became too stressful for some. You likely know what I mean.
You can. But if Tesla finds out, they can sue you. If you are an ENS on-chain voter, that is sufficient for you to represent ENS DAO theoretically without the risk of ENS Foundation suing you. Being a voter makes you part of the Council and members of the Council are legally part of the DAO. This is guaranteed in the Articles of Association of ENS Foundation which is the legal entity representing ENS DAO.
There is a subgroup in the Community WG that currently deals with IRL events. This subgroup will handle ENS DAO conference attendance in the future, as the scope of the subgroup grows. The subgroup is currently led by @Limes. I would definitely encourage everyone to get involved in that subgroup if it is something that interests them and message Limes with thoughts/feedback.
WG budgets are still a bit constrained this Term because we didn’t have a lot of information about subgroups when the budgets were passed. We should be in a much better place going into the Second Term to ensure that these subgroups are adequately funded.
With particular regard to supporting IRL events, when budgets were passed in the First Term it was still a time of massive uncertainty around whether events would take place at all due to the pandemic. A lot has changed in the past few months in terms travel and event rules, which will have a large impact on how the Community WG thinks about the scope and funding request for the ENS IRL subgroup moving into the Second Term.
I hope this picks up pace. @Limes had mentioned that he was looking into possible IRL events about a month prior to ETHAmsterdam. I commented couple of times asking him if something materialised but only got silence in return. I also asked the Ecosystem WG in the weekly calls threads to discuss the IRL events but it didn’t occur. I am again sorry for the clamour but if things worked as they were supposed to, I wouldn’t need to do any of this.
I don’t think anyone blames you for that. The creation and infancy of the DAO has been frustrating to I think all members of the DAO in its own way.
Speaking for myself I had a very idealized notion of what a DAO was in the beginning, and being part of the creation of a DAO has been a reality check in a number of healthy ways, and I’ve gone through a number of emotional states myself, with one of those states being immense frustration with work being slow in the first months, as you know.
I think that clamouring for work to be done puts us on the right path. We want people to work, and we need to find ways to get work done efficiently and without roadblocks. We can’t know how to do that unless people clamour for it, or so is my reasoning.
That being said, I think for development, that it’s something TNL is best suited for. Not in order to gate anyone else, but simply because as the creators of ENS we’d be foolish to not rely on those who already knows ENS intimately.
If it’s development better suited to its own sub-WG (say very connected to analysis) it might be best if that’s funded after we fund our “main development branch” so to speak?
I trust that once the new executive director, Khori, gets up to speed, that we’ll also see a satisfying acceleration in this space
Hey, about the timeline for ETHAmsterdam. We didn’t realistically have enough time to put anything substantial together. That could be a failure on our part, but it wasn’t a priority. It’s worth noting that the budget we allocated (10k) is small. We talked about getting a spot at these events, but sponsoring the event, getting a booth, and trying to comp cost of travel didn’t make sense with the available amount for this term.
To not let it go unused, and to implement something with enough planning, my understanding is that we’re focusing on ETHNewYork. I personally am in favor or using all the funding since there seems to be community demand to connect around events and merch.
Right now we’re looking to host an informal meet-up during ETHNewYork. This may include a small gathering for the ENS DAO. There is already a shirt order in production, stickers, POAPs, and some swag. I am managing this order from multiple vendors and trying to get it all to ETHNewYork in time .
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