Service Provider Nominations Discussion

Thanks Alex, I’ve moved this to its own thread.

Alex cites the relevant part of the proposal to this. I certainly see the point of the streams at being aimed at teams building core ENS infrastructure and tooling. As such, I don’t think projects like The Interceptor, Ethereum Follow Protocol, or Tokenscript are in-scope. I personally won’t be voting for anything that isn’t 100% focused on ENS, rather than just using ENS as a component.

@avsa, how much curation do you expect Meta-Gov to perform on this list before voting? Should every proposal that meets a basic quality bar be included, or should it be limited to proposals that the Meta-Gov WG think are productive?

The stream provider rules explicitly start with:

“Objective: To support service providers contributing to the advancement and sustainability of the Ethereum Name Service (ENS).”

It is clearly NOT meant to be a general grant for Ethereum projects, but rather specifically about advancing ENS.

But now of course, that is open to interpretation. What does it mean to “improve ENS”? Does having a better usability on Ethereum wallets benefit ENS? Does having a decentralized social media benefit? Does that answer change if we are talking about supporting an upcoming project or something established that already serves millions of users in different integrations in many social media apps?

I have my own answers. The way I will be judging them will be mostly “If a meteor strikes the next ENS Labs team retreat, will these projects be able to keep the ball rolling?”. But of course that is my take and not a hard rule written anywhere. I have the opinion that we should allow delegates to judge if these projects help “improve the ENS system” (and make that question clear on the snapshot vote). And it should fall on these projects to prove to the delegates that they are not only good projects that deserve funding, but that doing so will “contribute to the advancement and sustainability of ENS”.

In this sense, I think it would be better if Meta-gov’s used its curation power to remove only projects that are most likely not be functional. Projects that nobody ever heard of the team, that have no working website, that never had any relationship with the ENS community, that are just promises, etc.

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We believe that the DAO (Meta-Gov) should set out clear rules and eligibility guidelines for the streams. In the beginning during ENS Small Grants launch, there were many long & painful discussions about projects that used to qualify for both Public Goods as well as the Ecosystem WG; DAO eventually put the foot down and set out clear rules that sorted the issue out once and for all. It wasn’t ideal but it has worked well. Ambiguity only leads to more unrelated projects trying to extract value out of popularity-based voting systems.

One tangible solution could be to simply check if the project makes dedicated write calls to ENS contracts. We have generally observed that a project is unlikely to be ENS-dedicated if it doesn’t at least make dedicated write calls to ENS contracts, as opposed to only view calls (e.g. integrations).

Just our two cents!

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Hello all!

I am looking to secure endorsement to nominate tallyxyz.eth to the service provider stream.

Tally is a frontend for decentralized organizations and we’re happy to have supported ENS for a while now. We recently became aware of this fantastic opportunity to self-nominate as a service provider and we’re keen to expand our engagement with ENS!

We will submit our nomination by EOD tomorrow, just in time :slight_smile:

Thanks all—we are looking forward to the possibility of contributing to the ENS community and ecosystem!

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I’ve been triaging service provider nominations for the upcoming vote, and have identified issues with several proposals. I’m raising them here so that applicants have an opportunity to fix them before the submission period closes.

@Premm.eth @viniciusbedum You will need to update your proposal with a firm budget before the application window closes.

@viniciusbedum @hodl.esf.eth @bobjiang Your proposals do not yet have the required 10k nomination votes. If they don’t reach 10k by the time the application window closes, they cannot be included in the vote.

@encirca @russell You need to post a link to an endorsement vote on Snapshot as specified in the rules. Even if you are “self-endorsing”, this is necessary in order to prove that you control the wallet concerned, and in order to adhere to the rules defined for the stream process.

I’d also like to invite applicants to update their applications with a one-paragraph summary of their project and proposal, to be added to the text of the Snapshot vote for streaming provider selection along with a link to your full proposal. If you don’t provide one, I will attempt to write one to the best of my abilities.

Note that fixing any issues identified here does not guarantee inclusion in the final ballot, as Metagov WG stewards reserve the right to curate the list of applicants, as per the rules.

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It reads: " If your main address or your point of contact address has at least 10k delegated or owned ENS then write “self-endorsement”. You have completed the requirement." in the rules here Service Provider Stream Nomination Thread

Hey @nick.eth thanks for the update.
The snapshot space is currently experiencing some issues on the admin side, that are being worked on. We opened a support ticket. :tickets:

In the process outlined the language was:

:black_small_square: If your main address or your point of contact address has at least 10k delegated or owned ENS then write “self-endorsement”. You have completed the requirement. OR…
:black_small_square: Post a link to a social media post or a thread in this forum or a signed ethereum message with an endorsement from a delegate with at least 10k delegated ENS. OR…
:black_small_square: Go to nominations.ens.eth 22 snapshot and create a new proposal with title “Nominate example.eth to Service Provider Stream” and options being “For / Against / Abstain”. That proposal must have at least 10k votes by December 1st for your nomination to be valid.

The way we read that was that either of the three ways was fine. Let me know if this is not the case.

Happy to go the Snapshot route once it is fully operational again.

My mistake on the nomination requirement.

@avsa I think this needs revising, as without a vote or a signed message, we have no way to verify that the applicant is actually the owner of the account that has sufficient votes.

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It’s a bit confusing to me, it does say 100%. How short am I?

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Our forum posts have a “verified” badge with the vote count. While this is not as hard cryptographic proof as a signed message, I would consider that enough proof for the nomination threshold. Would you agree?

@hodl.esf.eth yes, if you have 10K “for” on your nomination then you’ve crossed the threshold.


On a side note to everyone: we are aware of issues with the nominations.ens.eth space. I have set up an alternate snapshot space at ens-streams.eth in which anyone with at least 0.1 ENS can post (snapshot required me to have some sort of minimum requirement). Please notice that this is just a way to facilitate the proof of ownership of these tokens, any other snapshot, or verified social media or even a signed message should do the same.

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I see your point there. Also good idea with the paragraph summaries. Will get after that asap.

Let me know if snapshot is better and we’ll go that route. Whatever works best.

There’s no actual proof that a forum account owns the account that they are claiming to be associated with; it’s operating mostly on the honor system so far.

Any of the methods provided in the doc will suffice for this instance. We can iron out the best practices for next time.

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Was able to post proposal in new Snapshot.

Looking for support for ENS anti-abuse project. Please provide support and/or comments in the new ens-streams snapshot here:

ENS Streams Nomination Proposal: ENS Anti-Abuse Tools (snapshot.org)

I have recreated your endorsement link with the correct title. Here you go:
https://snapshot.org/#/ens-streams.eth/proposal/0x5e515ba7b6422ad0cefb0aecc13166bf4b4760c380e6a9dd2d1db80036bbba5e

Ah I see. I thought we had a verification to have the badge…

Tried posting to snapshot, getting an error (proposal limit)

@AvsA With the technical issues, expressing my support for Tally on the forum with my current delegation of ~44k ENS. I look forward to seeing them on the final ballot.

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I’ve been having issues with the snapshot site → Wasn’t able to post on the original link, and currently getting error that I don’t have enough ENS to create a proposal (I bought 100 ENS this morning)

@AvsA or anyone else → any chance you’d be able to make the vote on snapshot on my behalf? Snapshot :pray:

Outstanding to see Web3D/Gary and LCFR teamed up for this proposal. If this funding is approved, I’m confident there will be awesome developments shipped rapidly. Moreover, the proposed ENS developer ecosystem promises to facilitate a technical toolkit and community hub for veteran and novice ENS developers. This could have exponential impact on the quantity and quality of applications integrating ENS. Expanding the open source code library with boiler-plate ENS integrations is exciting.

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Hmm. this broke my posted links as well.

Hey nick, how are you? sorry for the delay. We were traveling and I didn’t receive the message notification.

If we still have time to participate in the vote, the amount of 15,000.00 USD would serve as support for us to develop version 2.0 and bring the Linkeh dapp to the market for web3 users.

But we actually didn’t get the 10k nomination votes, because I don’t know other members of the community and this was our first time introducing Linkeh to the ENS community.

As we did not receive the 10k nomination votes, I believe we are no longer eligible to participate, but I really appreciate your attention for seeing our project.

We hope to have a more positive outcome in future grants, if any.

I appreciate your attention so far, nick.eth.

Best Regards,