[Temp Check] ENS Token 2nd Airdrop

My position has been consistent about concerns & no airdrop.

Misrepresented in a survey are my recent remarks.

Edit history is visible on all posts. My edit is doubly visible through the bracket&arrow to avoid further issue.

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A temp check is typically for a proposal, not a vague idea. You can’t meaningfully measure peoples’ opinion on something without nailing down what it is, and justifying why it should happen is a necessary prerequisite to that.

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Why it should happen was presented at the start. I have focused on presenting facts in this temp check. Why do I feel like I am getting all of this push back for following the protocol outlined in the constitution. Wow! Is this how every community member will be treated for attempting to freely discuss something that could potentially have a positive impact in the future, if conducted properly?

Some of the energy and words communicated here have been less that welcoming since I posted this topic. I am using my voice as member of this DAO, but I feel like those who hold power use that power to easily silence voices they choose not to hear.

(Me standing on a soapbox)

I AM A COMMUNITY MEMBER HERE. I WILL CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THE ENS COMMUNITY. BUT IF I DISCOVER SOMETHING THAT CAN BE RAISED TO THE ATTENTION OF ENS COMMUNITY. I WILL USE THE METHODS DOCUMENTED IN OUR ENS CONSTITUTION.

(Me smiling after the speech :grin:)

This is my first temp check. I never said it would be perfect. I knew there would be things to work through. But every day I have made an effort to keep this on topic and moderated in the most respectful way. Unfortunately, I don’t feel like it has been reciprocated. But it’s all good. I will continue to work towards getting this to a proposal.

Thanks,

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I was not trying to misrepresent you on any account. I took what you said and applied it to topic at hand. It’s a poll, if you feel that it misrepresented you. I do not want you to feel that way. I am more than happy to take it down and republish. No problem with me. Let’s not make this bigger than what it is. A “Temp Check”.

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I think this is fair regarding the criteria/eligibility, but I think consensus on the goal of distributing the 5.4M unclaimed tokens might be an important first step.

In other words maybe it’s helpful to look at this temp check as two prongs:

  1. Is distributing the 5.4M unclaimed tokens from the airdrop and fulfilling the initial tokenomics (25M tokens total distributed to the community) a valid goal?

If no, then we can stop right there.

If yes, then:

  1. Assemble a committee to develop the eligibility/criteria for distributing the 5.4M unclaimed tokens to best fulfill the original tokenomics consistent with the meaningful goal of widely distributing the governance/voting power while minimizing any potential gaming and put that plan before the community for review/revision before the final version goes to a potential proposal.
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@thenftverse.eth please do not use all caps.

Nobody is treating you indifferently. There is a process that is required to be followed by everyone.
If you feel like you are getting push back then the Temp Check is effectively doing it’s job. You are receiving negative feedback that doens’t quite support what you are proposing. There may be a lot of support for the idea if you present it in a way that covers all concerns that individuals might have.

Also please be mindful that; right now – in Q12023, an airdrop is not the main focus of the DAO, people are very busy working on projects that have been discussed for months, people are traveling to conferences and networking with other Ethereans. ETH Denver is coming up, the name wrapper is about to launch.

What you are presenting is a much larger project than most of the DAO would care to focus on right now.
That’s my take on it and I think many people would agree with that.

In the meantime if you feel super strong about this, maybe presenting some questions to the forum like this to start…

1.) What incentive to the community will second airdrop provide?

2.) Looking at the first airdrop, what are some challenges that were faced? What was successful?

3.) How many tokens were sold by recipients immediately after? How was the market affected by that?

4.) How many ENS Governance token recipients still have all or percentage of their tokens today?

5.) How many of those who are still holding are actively taking part in governance discussion on forum ?

6.) What percentage of token recipients have voted at least one time in the past year?

7.) What is the incentive for another airdrop ? Why are the tokens wanted?

8.) Will another airdrop stimulate more people to build or will builders who dont receive them feel left out again?

9.) Should a token claim be open to all .eth holders? Or should we look and measure discussion forum
contribution statistics to use as a weighted reference.

After all the token is for the DAO Governance voting and is not by any means a security.

So who would benefit from a drop more? Individuals who are already contribution daily, weekly and for the past year or allowing someone to claim the tokens and then sell them off into the market without considering contributing to DAO

See. This is the type of energy I am talking about. Is there a policy I am unaware of regarding using all caps? I am doing my best to follow all rules. I used all CAPS to preface my little speech - After all, I was standing on a soapbox. Damn, why are yall so sensitive and emotional. This is a “Temp Check”.

I have made an effort to respectful throughout this entire process. I never said my “Temp Check” is the epitome of format. It’s my first one sheeesh! I have never stated at any point that this should be a main focus.

I am just to end this response here. I am not the type to keep going back and forth. I will review the info outlined in your response. Shout out to ALL the first time people in the community who submit a temp check going forward. Let my experience serve as the example of how it could possibly be received.

I would appreciate people not put words in my mouth or take out frustrations on me due to a “Temp Check” topic.

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Yeah, No worries. I just provided you some guidance and gave you my time of day. We are not here to argue about perceived brevity from the context of text.

On that note. Good Luck with your initiative.

Thank you. Have a great day! :beers:

Actually, I believe this discussion has surfaced multiple current issues which are likely to perpetuate themselves.

These are structural in issue, and DAO members would do well to accept that these issues can be improved with more distributed governance.

Instead of framing the issue as a mercantilist issue, it might be more constructive to truly consider the underlying issues that are being proposed.

I also believe that the concerns with forum or ENS governance participation can be alleviated with outreach from DAO members to the community in natural areas of congregation. I see more and more community members coming on board, much less the other way round.

Also, I dont understand how @thenftverse.eth survey and his approach has been not followed the process?

Seems pretty respectable, SMART (Specific, measurable, actionable, relevant and time based)

  1. Temp Check, gathering comments and feedback
  2. Survey
  3. Review and round up (with further actions to take)

How should participants do otherwise?

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Apologies, but I don’t see how @thenftverse.eth didn’t do that.

Thank you sir for the kind words and feedback. I have tried my best to follow the process, while also staying within the Forum policy.

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Ladies and Gentleman,

The internal Temp Check first poll (15 total votes) resulted in “No Action” for options related the 5.4 Million ENS tokens. I will now conduct a external Temp Check poll using Twitter. This will give some of the ENS community the opportunity to select an option. Many have stated they have not gained access to comment in the DAO Forum. I will post the poll within the next 48 hours. Thank you.

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I do not support using twitter metrics for input to make DAO related decisions. In my opinion, if the issue is important enough, individuals will take the time to voice them in the proper channel.

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IMO, it would have been better to give time for the survey to get more responses. 15 seems a bit little and unrepresentative.

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@006.eth totally agree. There is no way 15 votes give true representation, but it’s hard to know how long is long enough to have kept the original poll open. I am playing this entire process by ear. I could relaunch a second poll here in the forum (unless I am violating another rule I am unaware of :open_mouth::rofl:). Maybe I will try some additional outreach to get more community members to take part in the poll. Many stated they were unable to comment, but only able to show support using emojis. I do want to make sure people who are trying to access the forum are given a fair chance to participate. I will look into recreating the internal poll.

Actually, I just reopened the original poll :grin:

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Nothing wrong with a Twitter poll. I’d be curious to see the results, and it doesn’t mean that the DAO suddenly has to abide by those results.

Also, they can use a little caps here and there. No need to police them - they’re holding a pretty good discussion thread here and at least getting the blood flowing.

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Twitter poll initiated. Which includes a link pointing back to this Temp Check.

https://twitter.com/officialethnerd/status/1625493362823544832?s=46&t=5SCctnw00tvfywAXCPywrA

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I voted for “Allowing each .eth a vote without needing to distribute ENS tokens that can be sold.” because I understand the concerns around $ENS being sold. Long term it still ends up as a whoever has most money wins.

I would like to say that the problem of voting distribution and engagement should be something that existing delegates should look deeper into. Again, 80% of the ENS users came AFTER the airdrop. They are simply unable to vote. A fews weeks ago, I thought that maybe people will buy $ENS but honestly, even if some do, the quantity will not be enough when compared to the top 5 holders of the token.

So again, my “plead” is for the existing ENS delegates to think if there should be more distributed and engaged voting in ENS. ENS has grown a lot of in last 12 months. It needs an improved structure for long term growth. The community is what uses ENS and what drives ever more adoption. Engage the community and ENS will do even better.

Here is a recent example from Uniswap where the holders improved their structure. https://www.coindesk.com/web3/2022/12/21/uniswap-dao-community-members-vote-in-favor-of-new-governance-process/

Devin Walsh, director of the Uniswap Foundation, said the proposal seeks to address inefficiencies in the governance structure with changes such as increasing the quorum – or amount of UNI represented – for voting and reducing the number of votes to pass a proposal.

“The intention of the off-chain votes is to provide a signal to the community that there’s consensus on a proposal,” Walsh told CoinDesk. “What we found is you only need one off-chain vote to achieve that benefit of a signal, and requiring the community to vote twice is redundant and unnecessary.”

The move to ease governance is part of an effort to empower community members to participate in the protocol’s decentralized autonomous organization (DAO).

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Thank you for added information and research conducted.