Funded using ens fees Mantained by staking on some DEFI
Who owns $ENS can stake it and collectsc credits
You can use the credits to sleep for free at the ENS_CASTLE Credits are not_transfer
Ideal place:
Istitutional Medieval Castle
Warm Weather
Has garden or park for tents during big events
Same project is growing in other communities All castles can then connect into a network
Why a castle:
Because it is the easiest way to experiment the future of smart cities
A castle has a head, a body, arms and legs, and it is a standalone universe/environment.
Same as a little city ready to be āsmartifiedā.
Anything happening inside the ENS castle will have big visibility in the ethereum ecosystem.
It is ruled by the ens dao as a whole.
Covid just remembered us the importance of being together
Physical Communities are a thing, always existed and will exist forever.
Covid shown us the importance of meeting each others.
Any community needs a place to refer to.
Also:
1 - It is a way to store value.
2 - A new use for $ENS
3 - An option for you next holidays
4 - A way for the money to be used for maintaining beauty/history/art
Agreed, but your Decentraland idea deserves a proposal on its own.
Real and virtual canāt be compared and shouldnāt.
You donāt go on holidays one week to decentraland to meet ethereans, share an experience, brainstorm ideas and create some teams
there are several factors to take care of. mainly : yearly taxes and weather.
example: UK is very bad on both sides.
It depends on the budget and the avialble offers in the end.
Tendentially I would say spain or italy.
Portugal could be another option (if the castle is mantained by DEFIā¦)
The point isnāt strictly to buy a castle (this is the first public good proposal ever, isnāt it clear?), you should take it as an input to brainstorm on.
The objective is building community and to have an institutional place to refer to.
Something able to express the values listed above?
To me this community is at the point where it is needed to break the first glass and see what is possible to imagine.
Maybe I misunderstand the meaning of a proposal process.
I think the decentralalnd counter_idea is at least a try to give a context to the values I try to address, even if completely out of context. Because in the end I am trying to give a physical dimension to the community, and specifically it is not the conference dimension, but the one of a space to refer to.
Human brain is a space machine. A machine building a sense of belongings. To belong to something is a multiplier of energy.
Anyway I am a dev, so there is no public good as valuable as public code to me.
But I am testing the community from another perspective. The perspective of the permanent location. The only one the not-devs can understand as absolute.
The discord proposal as a valuable alternative is a rejection of the human nature I want to express.
The decentraland one , as I said , recovers the spatial dimension and it is much better.
A community to me is something not temporary
The temporarity of a conference is just an event, like a concert, or a marriage.
Cerimonials, belonging to the teporarity of life, arenāt real.
A true collective is another thing.
Ethereum is collectivity, and this sis why in other communities this same idea is taken very seriously.
Maybe you Nick just donāt feel this need.
Personal life is something very personal.
Some people build a family and sticks with it, not allowing anyone to enter and distrub.
I donāt judge it.
To me building community is the meaning of life.
I think it could be interesting as we could use it as a center for blockchain education, a co-working space etc. This would certainly qualify as a public good, and we could accept donations too to help with running costs. But yes certainly an actual castle would not be sensible!
Donations may not be needed if the system is supported by value stored on DEFI.
Ideally it could attract sponsors instead, willing to have visibility since there would be a constant life inside and events of various sort.
The input of the castle refers specifically to the nature of social container.
While a set of offices would be justā¦ a set of offices, I imagine a structure able to operate as a (smart) city. Since you canāt split the society and the social experiment from the space/container that is the theater of that society.
There may be structures around the world that are conceived to be like little cities.
A castle is the perfect example of standalone container architecturally organized to express those functions. As I explained in the description, it is an organism ready to have a living society inside.
Another option would be to locate somewhere a structure built to host a tiny society.
There has been many plans during the 1800, but the most are on paper.
All the work of Robert Owen is very inspiring.
There is big space for revisitation.
In fact my point is not a dao ruling a bunch of offices, but very likely something closer_to/reminiscent_of some of the utopistic visions of that time.
If not us so who?
If not now so when?
Iām not a big fan of tying down resources into specific physical locations. Due to physical constraints, it may lead to biased in representation of the DAO membership presented and at worst case exclude certain members due to inability to travel or costs.
I would think DAO sponsored 1-off events around the world would be better for those reasons mentioned above.
As for a place for adhoc social hangout, maybe local chapters makes sense, but I think that if we do establish chapters it needs to support non-physical chapters (like a decentraland chapter) and/or just generic groups. This may also facilitate better ENS delegate community as a whole.
āWhat is the specific advantage of having a āsmart cityā over a simple co-working/event/hub space with respect to benefiting ENS and its mission?ā
The social difference between a living place and a working one
if this offer would become a trend in communties, places would be everywhere, communities could interchange places.
About virtual meeting:
There is a plan of mine (1 year old or more?) for a daos island in cryptovoxels somewhere.
But we talk about two different things
I spent a lot of my youth and early adulthood setting up venues for underaged people to enjoy local music, to be fair thatās not an equal comparisonā¦ however some of the issues Iāve had experience with might be prudent to mention;
The more open and comfortable someplace is, the more it will get trashed. Itās inevitable and no amount of hemmoraging money into security and bouncers will stop it
No matter where you pick someone somewhere is likely to come out of the woodwork and say that the community being supported at that location is a community that is unwelcome by locals.
If you are able to create a perfect safe haven of your dreams there will be unexpected bad apples: we can already see that in the divide between the people who want ENS to somehow magically make us all rich and the people who want to use it as a tool to advance a future technology.
This being said the only actual answer to any of these issues is that a permanent location is not viable. By and large pop-up events and convention type meetings are the only sustainable and realistic solution.
Now Iām not omnipotent, I just have a lot of experience with these types of things so I feel my two cents is valuable however grim
Constitution DAO taught me one thing. We can do whatever we want. Write the proposal, put it to vote. A permanent physical location is overhead. Whatās the value? Sounds like an embassy situation. Are there staff, security? What is their pay and benefits? No matter the reply, it comes from the treasury and should be scrutinized for ROI.
