Now we have the 100kclub.
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Upon further thinking, if more traits were added to the ENS metadata, it could be not just for the999/10kclub, but other interesting subsets too, like âprepunkâ (names with historical value because they were minted before CryptoPunks existed) or âletters onlyâ or ânumbers onlyâ or âjapanese onlyâ or âcontains emojisâ or whatever people think would be most useful.
Category traits like that would help people to search for the name they want. Not just for marketplaces either, it could also help websites like eth.xyz or ens.tools because they could read those traits and show interesting tags for the ENS name, or even show ENS names in groups or something.
Anyway just brainstorming again
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I think it is time that a subWG is formed to incorporate these ideas. The 10k and 100k folks are constantly coming with many ideas and we should accommodate at least those that do not directly inhibit the ENSâs mission. It is not ideal that ENS keeps turning them away on every aspect. I dislike squatting and flipping business as much as the next person, but some of these ideas are pure UI/UX improvements
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Would this be a subWG, or just like an RFP that the Ecosystem WG would grant?
Integrations: Bounties for ecosystem integration support
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I donât really know at this point. Itâs all noodles and pasta. But it has to be something 
Ideally an RFP, yes, but these things will keep popping up again and again with new collections, so perhaps keep a tiny subWG open for stuff like this?
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I believe the 999 and 10kclub should have their own subcollection listing on OS, or at least a filter function that designates them by name, rather than by a mere character length or numeral search function.
The ENS clubs are to ENS what NFTs are to ETH (and by analogy, Nick is Vitalik I suppose). Vitalik certainly never wanted NFTs to be the major uses of Ethereum, but itâs undeniable NFTs brought people into Web3 that never would have arrived here otherwise (without NFTs, ETH really only appeals to DeFi and ideologues building apps for resources that have no application or need yet). The 10kclub and 999 are doing for ENS what NFTs have been doing for ETH. They are bringing users onto the platform, helping them learn of the benefits of ENS domains, and ushering in a new wave of users and developers for the future. Even if they are not the vision Nick or the ENS DAO may have had for ENS adoption, they are indisputably working towards the very goal of making ENS the web3 username for all to use.
The 10kclub has grown completely organically in stark contrast to virtually every NFT project that has preceded it, and I would go even further to say that is the very core spirit of Web3. Just because the NFTs are the basis for entry into the club and have value, they also represent a movement that is unprecedented and mirrors the early days of the Punks and BAYC with how much community engagement is. People are identifying with their numbers as usernames, talking about numbers with their friends, and researching the meaning in their identities and sharing them everywhere.
At the very least, SOME filtering needs to be done because of the widespread confusion and disappointment happening now when people are either being scammed by buying ENS domains that are similar to what they wanted but not actually what they were looking for or just for efficiencyâs sake. There are many people who want to buy a 3 or 4 digit or letter domain but are unable to find any listings easily. The only existing filtering market place is GEM (a platform that very few people use and has a lot of issues with their filtering functions) and OS is a complete chaotic mess of listings, spam, and lots of listings that replace digits with letters. These barriers to entry into ENS are not in line with the purpose and vision of ENS from everything Iâve understood. If the goal is to have people acquire usernames they want to use in Web3, there should be optimized search features for how to get that name.
Finally, I firmly disagree with the point that 3 or 4 digits are encouraging squatting. There is effectively nothing that 3 digits or 4 digits are squatting on. Of course, I can see an issue with brand name filters, like lumping Chanel and Adidas domains into a category, but something that appears to be wholly neutral like length, character, or even a club designation feature that meets certain criteria of the ENS Dao (like no brand name squatting) and doesnât infringe on any IP rights canât possibly be against the vision of Nick or the ENS Dao.
Thanks for reading this long essay frENS.
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Iâve been pushing 5-digit prime numbers, as a collection of 8,363 numbers. Anything to enhance collectability. This digit mania has people identifying themselves by their ENS digit domain.
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Why, when gem.xyz has already added a filter for it, must the solution lie in the metadata? I think once itâs reliably working on gem.xyz it will be implemented on OS
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Hey, if OpenSea will add custom filters for ENS names outside of the actual metadata, then sure thatâd be great. Does OS actually do that for any other project? Add their own OS-only filters that are not part of the actual NFT metadata?
But even if they do, thatâs only for OpenSea. Now you gotta go around to all the other places and make them do the same thing. And some places will have different filters than others, etc. Sounds like a maintainability nightmare.
However if the changes where made in the ENS metadata itself, then it only needs to be changed in one place, at one time, and it would automatically apply to any website/dapp that displays ENS names and grabs the metadata (and not just marketplaces).
I think the only way to âsellâ this to the core dev team is if itâs something beneficial in general to the entire ENS community, not specific to a certain marketplace.
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I could see this being pretty useful! Some people may want to search for and only see names in their native language characters.
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Tagging seems like a problem for marketplaces to solve to earn their keep. Although tempting for ENS to get involved, if ENS starts tagging metadata it will be unending. 10k, 69 club, primes, special primes. Itâll just be a method of centralizing control and âvaluationsâ.
ENS contract cannot revoke a domain. But apparently it can tag or flag through metadata. When do these tags start to say âstolenâ or âowned by a group we donât likeâ.
The ENS protocol should be boring. Let the users bring the brilliance, and let the protocol be boring.
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Good points.
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Fantastic point. ENS should itself be boring, while encouraging the community to provide the vibrancy! 
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This is in fact in progress - metadata for the alphabet in use (eg, digits, alphanumeric, emoji). Combined with length itâll be possible to filter for, eg, 3 digit names.
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Cheers, thanks for the response. Looking forward to the upgrade & keep up the great work!
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I brought this up 2 years ago:
âŚNick was very against the idea, as he is most of my ideas.
I wish we could revisit the remarketing/affiliate concept, which I believe would have been the single best marketing campaign for ENS, but everyone is allergic to marketing or helping âthe communityâ promote ENS.
not only that but I think people have the right to not be categorized and subsequently get harassed by people who want try and buy their names without solicitation.
ENS is essentially like waterâŚitâs up to us all how we use itâŚdonât abuse it else you may end up drowning in it!
Donât try holding on to it for too long else it will become stagnant.
Like you said, and like when people chose to interact with water, we can choose to swim in it, go surfing in it or even stick it in a high pressure hose and use it to harm people.
ENS is and will be one of the most important nutrients for web3 if we can just allow it.
If we can all just sometimes remember to forget what we already know, let down our stigmas and closed mindedness, look outside our own backyard and recall the old saying âNothing ventured, nothing gainedâŚâ
What ENS really needs is better communication and dynamic social integration on all levels.
Thatâs not meant to be a criticism but hopefully more of a wake up call and a hope for things to continue building forwards.
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I donât think that ENS Labs should support developing a sub collection feature. That would suggest â these categories are the names that have value '. Even with good intention for that to not be the case, people would still inherit the sentiment as something to pack and unload their bags on. Wouldnât be a good look. I honestly think that âcategorizingâ ENS names is trivial and along with that come a sense of novelty NFT, when it is actually a tool.
Letâs be real, what are any of the âclubs or categoriesâ as an entity doing for ENS in a development sense and other than marketing their own bags for personal profit that is likely to never get pushed into development ( or maybe, but I donât know of any instances ).
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Indeed I do actually agree.
However, also I would love to see some consensus data on public sentiment across the likes of X/Twitter and other sectors that to try and figure out if people even know the difference between Labs and the DAO for example?..I think the general lack of basic to medium levels of education and knowledge of ENS is not to be overlooked eitherâŚ
Vice versa, I think it would be intrinsically valuable to the DAO and Labs to also take more time to spend time engaging with its constitutes and not being afraid to get stuck into the front lines so to speak of twitter. Not just to appease the current ENS comunities but to go further afield and be willing to casually drop into random Spaces and become familiarised with the trends and topics that essentially is the fabric of web3 whether we like it or not?..
For a years now, ENS has had a small army of passionate loyal and intelligent people sitting in plane sight which if done well and if the right people get together (not just 1 or 2 people) I mean an actual Social media, social DAO that didnât have to rely on shilling their bags of .club or .squat domainsâŚ
I have recently been shocked, while not overly surprised by the movements and strategies being rolled out in force by Unspeakable Domains across Twitter and Twitter spacesâŚthey are starting to get noticed and from what I can tell, they are trying to blurr the lines between what ENS (.eth) really meansâŚ
Perhaps as an Idea for such a collection, could be to aim to create a group of validated and nominated people who sit a test of some kind, based on their general understanding of how ENS worksâŚIn turn these letâs call them âleadersâ could be equipped with things like POAPS, subdomain give aways for onboarding and even given access to certain NFTs or Token gated communitiesâŚI just see a world by where if for example - you give a"Squatter" a POAP or a title/a purpose etc, that the âSquatterâ might feel recognised, valued and allowed the chance to become the best version of themselvesâŚjust by merely wearing/hodling a âBadge of Honourâ
Perhaps a topic for another thread!! Im sorry. But I can tell you now, that there would be nothing stopping them from reading everything in this forum and potentially just paying the ârightâ people behind the scenes to make it happen for them, and in doing so, they will further their footings into Web3.